VERSION|0.5.1|NAME|theironduck|DATE|1365242552|CONTENT|The first time I came across this sort of daft argument I thought its originator was just playing word games to win a point but it soon became apparent that they really believed it and were genuinely unable to distinguish the multiple senses of the word &quot;faith&quot;, specifically the differences between &quot;earned trust&quot;, &quot;optimism&quot; and &quot;belief without evidence&quot;.    It makes it very difficult to have any meaningful discussion with the faithful as they literally speak a different language.  That and wilful ignorance obviously.|IP-ADDRESS|188.223.23.41|MODERATIONFLAG|